Both experts agreed anyone who looked at child porn had to be considered at least a potential "hands-on" paedophile.
"A paedophile is somebody who sexually abuses children," said Mr Carr.
"Anybody who looks at child pornography on the internet is an abuser by proxy.
"And over one in three people found in possession of child pornography, according to a very large American survey, will in fact be involved in hands-on abuse."
On how to control the problem, Mr Carr said censorship would be undesirable and, anyway, technically impossible to implement.
He called on the industry to do more to make the internet safer for children.
He said: "We do need more and better technical solutions, and this is really throwing a challenge down to the industry.
"If we cannot convince the majority of the public that the internet is a safe place for children... in the end the internet as we know it today will cease to exist, and that will be a sad day."
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